It started off on Tumblr, as many matters pertaining to Canadian pop star Carly Rae Jepsen do. One of her fans thought it would be nice if she had a sword, and started a viral campaign to get her one. A few months and many memes later, she was handed one onstage at Lollapalooza Ď18 (there have actually been several ó Jensenís fans are fiercely devoted, and seem to love swords for some reason).

When Jepsen won the Song of the Decade lottery with ďCall Me MaybeĒ in 2012, the fame that came with it, oppressive at first, settled into something breathable and nice over the course of the next few albums: ďEmotionĒ (2015), and the new ďDedicated,Ē a pristine, Ď80s-dwelling pop album.

In an phone interview, Jepsen, 33, discussed her post-ĒCall Me MaybeĒ life, her little-heard folk-pop debut, and what she does with all those swords.

The following is an edited version of that conversation:

Q: You had almost 200 songs written for the album. How did you choose?

A: It was a really hard. I was home for a brief stint in Canada and I went into my dadís music room, and there were poster boards of all the many songs I had written for my first ever EP, that probably no one ever listened to. It was nice. I was like, I guess Iíve always been an overwriter. Ö I usually have lots of friends and bandmates and family members involved in helping me narrow it down, by throwing these kind of chaotic listening parties at my house. Thatís a really helpful tool for seeing what people are reacting to. They get invested and have debates about it. Itís kind of fun to sit back and watch.

Q: Is it true that you never have writerís block?

A: Yeah. I feel like Iím going to need to knock on wood if I keep saying that. Itís not that I donít write a bad song ó if you needed me to write you a song today, Iím sure I could come up with something. I guess Iím fairly able to write if I need to write, yeah. Iím kind of even writing when I donít mean to be. When someone says something in a certain way, Iíll find some poetry to it, kind of ignoring the conversation and writing it down quickly. My friends call me out for doing it a lot.

Q: What kind of expectations did you have when you released that first folk-pop album? Are you like, ďHere we go. Iím going to be famous nowĒ?

A: One thing Iíve never had is a big expectation for what my career was going to look like. I just knew that I was going to keep hustling and trying to have one. Even in my PowerPoint presentation to my parents when I decided that I was going to make a run for this thing, I was like, ďOneís happiness equals (less) regrets. Even if I was jazz lounge singing and waitressing six nights a week, I will be so happy giving this my all.Ē And they were like, ďAll right, go for it, kid.Ē

Q: It seems having a big hit like that would be weirdly terrifying. You donít know if youíre going to have another, people are constantly coming up to you.

A: Itís funny what you think you want, and what you want. Iím really glad I got to experience it, but there was some time afterwards when you feel that adrenaline of, ďWhatís next? How do we (make another hit)?Ē And I just thought, what am I working for here, because this isnít fun, even. I would love to have a job in music, but thereís different goals, and being honest about that was critical. It doesnít mean we didnít try for it. We were on the road, in the hustle, but there was a point where it was good to take some time off and get back into the studio. I spent a while before ďEmotionĒ came into fruition. When I had that album, I was hoping to find a tribe of people who loved music vs. the celebrity-ness of my career, and Iíve been so lucky to have that.

Q: Do you look at now as being better than back then?

A: Iím much happier now and Iím much more confident in who I am, and the artist that I want to be. Iím grateful for the journey of it, though. I donít regret ďCall Me Maybe,Ē or the craziness of what we got to experience, but every year has felt better and better.

Q: They wanted to give you a sword.

A: Theyíve given me a few swords now.

Q: Do you keep them? Could you get them through airport security?

A: I was like, ďWhat am I going to do with a sword? Itís so sweet, I canít leave it here.Ē I gave it to my tour manager, and he cracked us up by sending us a picture of the sword wrapped in styrofoam, going through security.